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the offender is today -- vice-president joe biden. who is that gaffe isn't vice-president outright admit that this middle class has been buried the last four years. and his opponent, paul ryan, jumping all over that comment. >> this is deadly ernest. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes to the middle class who has been buried the last four years -- how in lord's name, can they justify raiding their taxes with these tax cuts? >> vice-president biden just today said that the middle class, over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging, by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. [cheers and applause] of course, the middle clationz class has been buried, they are buried by regulations and buried by taxes and borrowing, they are being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> greta: so will the obama campaign take a political hit with that one, mr. speaker? it's dangerous to talk these days? >> look, it's pretty hard to take anythin
the offender is today -- vice-president joe biden. who is that gaffe isn't vice-president outright admit that this middle class has been buried the last four years. and his opponent, paul ryan, jumping all over that comment. >> this is deadly ernest. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes to the middle class who has been buried the last four years -- how in lord's name, can they justify raiding their taxes with these tax cuts? >> vice-president biden just today...
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we're going to talk about biden. let's take a look at vice president biden, he talks about republicans are seizing on a line in his remarks yesterday when he describes the difficulties facing the middle class and the current economy. let's take a look at what biden said. >> this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes? >> well, that created shortly after joe biden tweuttered thos words, mitt romney tweeted. and later in the day, paul ryan, his running made, referred to biden's remarks on the campaign trail thusly -- >> vice president biden said today the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> senator, this is the new politics. quick reaction, war room kind of politics. is it worthy of our attention? does
we're going to talk about biden. let's take a look at vice president biden, he talks about republicans are seizing on a line in his remarks yesterday when he describes the difficulties facing the middle class and the current economy. let's take a look at what biden said. >> this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising...
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president obama will want to take joe biden to the wood shed. take joe biden to the wood shed. and our political panel returns. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >> this is deadly ernest, man. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes on the middle-class that has been buried the last 4 years... >> greta: vice-president joe biden getting into trouble on the campaign trail. did he do any political damage? scw and how did the romney team do with his quick response? okay, rick. that was a rough one to recover from. >> it is. i mean -- >> greta: you know, it's just rough. >> who has been in charge the last four years is the obvious question. the romney campaign was nimble and immediately sent paul ryan -- >> greta: do you have to be nimble on this, really? >> no of this was teed up. clearly, he misspoke, it's a gaffe, all of that. you know with joe biden
president obama will want to take joe biden to the wood shed. take joe biden to the wood shed. and our political panel returns. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >> this is deadly ernest, man. how they can justify -- how they can justify raising taxes on the middle-class that...
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the difference between the ryan/romney tape and what joe biden said, you can feel joe biden speaking for a palpable love. hes had has a love and admiration for the average working person whereas romney and ryan showed a disdain, make it 30, 47%. people who want to be president of the united states don't typically dislike a large swath of the american people. >> congresswoman, you're out there talking to people all the time. what has been the impact -- i think 47% of the line for romney is going to go right through november. >> i think so, too. the poe yet mayo angelou said it best, if people show you who they are, you should believe them. we need to have a president who fights for the middle class and i think that's the clear contrast that we will see on the debate stage tonight. >> what about next week? this could be the battle of the century but next week we have the light heavyweight. you have biden against ryan. what do you think? >> that's going to be a really clear contrast as well. joe biden has fighting for the middle class and for working families for his entire career for m
the difference between the ryan/romney tape and what joe biden said, you can feel joe biden speaking for a palpable love. hes had has a love and admiration for the average working person whereas romney and ryan showed a disdain, make it 30, 47%. people who want to be president of the united states don't typically dislike a large swath of the american people. >> congresswoman, you're out there talking to people all the time. what has been the impact -- i think 47% of the line for romney is...
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. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been buried the last four years. >> let me bring in dan rather, anchor and editor of dan rather reports and national journal's white house correspondent. good morning. let's address that video right off the bat. robert gibbs was asked this morning if he's worried about the optics of it. here's what he said. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina, i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate to do that. but look, i am, i have to say i'm a little amazed that as you mentioned, a widely covered speech, likely by people at your network, is somehow caused a cur fluff l five years later. >> i love that. so, dan, i guess question is there is no doubt about this fact that it was covered. it was open to the public. it was talked about during that time. is it smart of the republican party to bring this ba
. >> in north carolina, joe biden went off script and said the middle class has been buried the last four years. this morning, they've turned a clip into a web video. >> the middle class in america is hurting. >> middle class has been buried the last four years. >> let me bring in dan rather, anchor and editor of dan rather reports and national journal's white house correspondent. good morning. let's address that video right off the bat. robert gibbs was asked this...
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47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and paul ryan who frankly doesn't look very gracious when you're asked about missteps on the ticket, if you want to do anything, and i think this is communications and politics 101, if you want to do anything talk about your own missteps. you're the number 2 guy. you're not there to remind people about how your boss made a big error that wasn't just style but was also substance. >> paul ryan was also asked why the romney/ryan team is trailing in the polls. let's listen to his response to that. >> it kind of goes without saying that there is definitely media bias. i think most people in main stream media are left of center and therefore they want a left of center president versus the conservative president like mitt romney. >> the old blame the media. you know you're in trouble when you blame the media for where your campaign
47% comment to the greatest effect. >> big ups to joe biden for rocking the polo shirt. i can't think of the last time someone on a ticket has made such a bold choice. look at the contrast here between joe biden who's setting the issues on the table and paul ryan who frankly doesn't look very gracious when you're asked about missteps on the ticket, if you want to do anything, and i think this is communications and politics 101, if you want to do anything talk about your own missteps....
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. >> now, the pressure is on paul ryan and joe biden in a debate next week. and the stakes are a lot higher for the president to come up with a different game plan for his next debate with mitt romney two weeks from now. >> andrea mitchell remains in denver tonight. thanks and of course, thanks to social media. getting reaction to a debate isn't a morning after thing anymore. it's a real time thing and the talk about the event in denver is still going on tonight. that part of our story from nbc's john yang. >> the right answer for government is to say how do we make the private sector become more efficient? >> reporter: even before they finished talking, another debate was raging online. the twitter world exploded. york, an absolutely a one sided debate. big, big win for romney. bill maher. i can't believe i'm saying this, but obama looks like he does need a telepromter. analyst stu rothenberg. what happened to obama? >> i don't know what he was doing out there. he had his head down, he was enduring the debate. >> romney supporters celebrated. >> this was fro
. >> now, the pressure is on paul ryan and joe biden in a debate next week. and the stakes are a lot higher for the president to come up with a different game plan for his next debate with mitt romney two weeks from now. >> andrea mitchell remains in denver tonight. thanks and of course, thanks to social media. getting reaction to a debate isn't a morning after thing anymore. it's a real time thing and the talk about the event in denver is still going on tonight. that part of our...
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videos of joe biden v. paul ryan. the battle royal still to come. spoofs are a fun way the digital age has changed the campaigns and also a serious impact. think about it. twitter was still relatively fledgling four years ago. tonight for the first time, instant reaction from the crowd could shape the national post-debate conversation. just as much as the opinions of journalists and pundits do. so, let's do what journalists and pundits do and talk about it. i think, you know, twitter and -- and i mentioned this yesterday in "the rant," i mean, twitter is a really fun way to watch a debate. live tweeting through it, see what other people have to say. but it's also really changed the sperngs. you know, as we tease there, you get instant reaction to real-time events. it's completely democraticized the experience of getting news and watching politics because everyone can be a pundit and a news producer by retweeting what other people are saying. and it develops these real-time twitter means we've seen throughout the year, which i think have been really
videos of joe biden v. paul ryan. the battle royal still to come. spoofs are a fun way the digital age has changed the campaigns and also a serious impact. think about it. twitter was still relatively fledgling four years ago. tonight for the first time, instant reaction from the crowd could shape the national post-debate conversation. just as much as the opinions of journalists and pundits do. so, let's do what journalists and pundits do and talk about it. i think, you know, twitter and -- and...
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next up, the running mates, vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan are set to face off in their owner debate one week from tonight. the v.p. says his practice sessions with congressman chris van holland are going well and is he looking forward to the real thing the thing about congressman ryan is he has been straightforward up to now about everything he is -- all the significant changes he wants to make. we have a fundamentally different view on a whole range of issues. so i hope it will be a good debate. >> congressman ryan spent the past couple of days practicing as well with former solicitor general ted olsen playing vice president biden. shed, we'll be live in danville, kentucky for the vice presidential debate one week from tonight. while millions more viewers watched last night's debate than the first presidential debate in 2008, nielsen ratings now show 67.2 million total viewers tuned in last night. only 52.4 million watched then senator barack obama's showdown in 2008 with senator john mccain. ratings from last night also show that fox news channel's coverage domi
next up, the running mates, vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan are set to face off in their owner debate one week from tonight. the v.p. says his practice sessions with congressman chris van holland are going well and is he looking forward to the real thing the thing about congressman ryan is he has been straightforward up to now about everything he is -- all the significant changes he wants to make. we have a fundamentally different view on a whole range of issues. so i hope it...
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next, vice president biden campaigns in florida. then vice-presidential candidate paul ryan speaks at ai rally in new hampshire. after that, the 1984 presidential debate between ronald reagan and walter mondale. >> tomorrow on "washington journal" two presidential candidates cake cake your calls and questions. jill stein from the green party, and the author of "party matters," virgil goode. >> it is the number one priority, and it is the most untouchable thing. that is going to cause more trouble than any other prop problem we have currently in the united states. getting medicare costs under control is the number one thing. >> you say we also surcharge smokers? >> yes. >> for their medicare coverage. where did you get that idea? >> it came from us. i'm the person that put it in the memo, but i didn't have to fight very hard for it. i have been accused of being incensetive, which i guess i probably am. i mean, i'm not really a democrat, but i'm certainly similar to the democrats in that thinking. if you have it, someone has to pay fo
next, vice president biden campaigns in florida. then vice-presidential candidate paul ryan speaks at ai rally in new hampshire. after that, the 1984 presidential debate between ronald reagan and walter mondale. >> tomorrow on "washington journal" two presidential candidates cake cake your calls and questions. jill stein from the green party, and the author of "party matters," virgil goode. >> it is the number one priority, and it is the most untouchable thing....
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paul ryan did not miss the opportunity to seize on biden's choice of words. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign also chimed in on twitter writing agree with joe biden. the middle class has been buried the last four years which is why we need a change in november, #can'tafford4more. >>> later that today in asheville, north carolina vice president biden clarified that the middle class was buried by the policies that romney and ryan supported. see if you're convinced by that recovery. >>> also yesterday, a video was relesioned by the daily caller, featuring then senator barack obama speaking to a group of african-american religious leaders in 2007. they are billing the video as a bombshell labelling it obama's other race speech. the video's publication widely seen as an
paul ryan did not miss the opportunity to seize on biden's choice of words. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign also chimed in on twitter writing agree with joe...
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vice president joe biden is campaigning today in north carolina. he's criticizing mitt romney for opposing policies that biden says would cut taxes for millionaires and race -- and raise them for for middle-class families. >> how they can justify this? raising taxes for the middle class that's been buried. how can they justify raising those taxes. >> ♪ >> the republican campaign has repeatedly said claims about romney's tax plan are falls. >> we have offered very specific progrowth solutions to get our economy in gear. we can have a dynamic progrowth economy that fosters independence and opportunity verses a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. >> paul ryan is stomping in iowa today before flying to virginia tonight. the wisconsin congressman is set to debate vice president joe biden next thursday in kentucky. >>> president obama has announced plans to visit kern county the monument of cesar chavez will be in keen where he lived. the president says the national monument would preserve chavez's legacy of giving a voice to workers. this trip w
vice president joe biden is campaigning today in north carolina. he's criticizing mitt romney for opposing policies that biden says would cut taxes for millionaires and race -- and raise them for for middle-class families. >> how they can justify this? raising taxes for the middle class that's been buried. how can they justify raising those taxes. >> ♪ >> the republican campaign has repeatedly said claims about romney's tax plan are falls. >> we have offered very...
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it's going to be on joe biden because they can't have two bad debate performances in a row. then suddenly a one-night story becomes a narrative. right. >> it's a different ball game than four years ago. >>> still ahead, senior advisers to the obama and romney campaigns, david axelrod and ed gillespie join us coming up on "morning joe." ♪ [ male announcer ] finally, mom's oven-baked tastes straight from the microwave. like oven-roasted chicken in a creamy alfredo sauce. marie callender's new comfort bakes. it's time to savor. ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation, every solution, comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for ge
it's going to be on joe biden because they can't have two bad debate performances in a row. then suddenly a one-night story becomes a narrative. right. >> it's a different ball game than four years ago. >>> still ahead, senior advisers to the obama and romney campaigns, david axelrod and ed gillespie join us coming up on "morning joe." ♪ [ male announcer ] finally, mom's oven-baked tastes straight from the microwave. like oven-roasted chicken in a creamy alfredo...
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what is it with joe biden, should he just keep his mouth shut? >> i want joe biden to keep talking. he accidentally goes into this truth telling, and i think it is great because we can rely on joe biden. under the heel of the obama economy for four years. we are suffering, joe biden knows this and he forgot to not say it. i don't know if all the main street media will report it but we should not slam romney for jumping on it, that is what the vicvice president said. as the one that is what you call a ready-made gift. >> obviously people are soft. up and down the economy. the question really is joe biden to normal folks, who do you trust going forward and who is going to get you out of this? you may make fun of him but he comes out as a fighter. ashley: maybe stick to take other people's speeches, referencing when he plagiarized the uk labor leader speech back in '87. >> i remember that, actually. a problem with him now, my question, talk about how hard-pressed the middle class is now, he is right to say that, usually don't you hold the incumbent accountable for the economic woes we
what is it with joe biden, should he just keep his mouth shut? >> i want joe biden to keep talking. he accidentally goes into this truth telling, and i think it is great because we can rely on joe biden. under the heel of the obama economy for four years. we are suffering, joe biden knows this and he forgot to not say it. i don't know if all the main street media will report it but we should not slam romney for jumping on it, that is what the vicvice president said. as the one that is...
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he's got to face joe biden next week. with all of the things that the new minted mitt romney said last night, joe biden who is a very feisty debater brings to ryan. doesn't ryan have a problem in the debate next week agreeing with some of the things that the new mitt romney came with last night? >> well, you know, we all yearn for good presidentivice preside debate, but the truth is they really don't matter if the quaylquayle-benson didn' matter, this won won't. >> we don't know if they don't matter. >> sarah palin, people watched it the way you watch a nascar race with a fascination that there may be an accident or a wreck. but with the debate coming up, there is this tension on the ticket, republican ticket, between paul ryan who campaigns and gave the speech remember at the convention, there was archly ideological about creating a new world that the president has described at darwinian and pessimistic and dark. and he gives joe biden a lot of lines of attack on the ryan budget, the medicare plan and all those things. t
he's got to face joe biden next week. with all of the things that the new minted mitt romney said last night, joe biden who is a very feisty debater brings to ryan. doesn't ryan have a problem in the debate next week agreeing with some of the things that the new mitt romney came with last night? >> well, you know, we all yearn for good presidentivice preside debate, but the truth is they really don't matter if the quaylquayle-benson didn' matter, this won won't. >> we don't know if...
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. >> i love joe biden. he said something on the campaign trail something yesterday and the republicans were quick to pounce. let's listen to what he said. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify, raising attacks on the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> and this is how paul ryan responded. >> i thought he was taking my speech. you know what? we agree. the middle class has been buried over the last four years. they're being buried by obama care, by borrowing, taxes, spending, more regulations, all this uncertainty plaguing businesses. the way to fix this is stop this and elect mitt romney. >> on the joe biden, gaffe meter, how big of a gaffe is this? >> joe biden gaffe meter? that's probably different. probably a six for a non-joe biden it would probably be an eight. come on, joe biden makes some great ones. you know, i thought it was interesting yesterday, the amount of conference cal
. >> i love joe biden. he said something on the campaign trail something yesterday and the republicans were quick to pounce. let's listen to what he said. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify, raising attacks on the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> and this is how paul ryan responded. >> i thought he was taking my speech. you know what? we...
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we've seen the example of joe biden on the trail, joe biden being very smooth, trying to relate and be charming, charm offensive with the female crowd, hang out with the biker ladies. we saw that picture. from a political perspective is he the obama camp's secret weapon or their biggest headache? >> probably a little both. definitely a headache in terms of saying things like the middle class has been buried over the last four years, but in terms of their charm offensive he's somebody who they believe can relate well to working class folks, white working class folks pap tour of delis and diners and places, lunch counters, where working folks are going to eat in the middle of the day. in particular, though, there's a certain set of women i like to call them the medicare eligible set, 65 and over and certainly a little younger than that who obama has had a lot of trouble with. he's got a huge lead among women overall but as women are older, they are less likely to be in his camp. mitt romney actually leading in that 65 and over column by 48% to 43% in the gallup poll in august. joe biden,
we've seen the example of joe biden on the trail, joe biden being very smooth, trying to relate and be charming, charm offensive with the female crowd, hang out with the biker ladies. we saw that picture. from a political perspective is he the obama camp's secret weapon or their biggest headache? >> probably a little both. definitely a headache in terms of saying things like the middle class has been buried over the last four years, but in terms of their charm offensive he's somebody who...
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. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> biden clarified his remarks saying, quote, the middle class was buried by policies that romney and ryan supported. the romney campaign tries to make the stick calling a conference call and then holding a press conference in denver this morning. no doubt we'll hear more about the comments tonight from romney as he tries to draw attention away from his own 47% remark. there is a quick look at tonight's format. there are no opening statements. the president will answer the opening questions. the debate will be divided into six 15-minute segments. the president and romney will each get two minutes to answer an initial question in each topic area but then timing will be left to the moderator's discretion. since obama won a coin toss he won the choice and romney got the choice of if he wants the first or second closing statement. he will be the last person you hear from
. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> biden clarified his remarks saying, quote, the middle class was buried by policies that romney and ryan supported. the romney campaign tries to make the stick calling a conference call and then holding a press conference in denver this morning. no doubt we'll...
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joe biden made remarks ab the middle class being buried. here it is. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course, the middle class has been buried. they are being buried by regulations, by taxes, by borrowing, they are being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign is taking remarks out of context. alex, will it work or is it just desperation? >> i think it's a real mistake whenever the romney campaign tries to play on the same field as the president and joe biden. nobody is a better surrogate, speaks more to the pain of the working and middle class than joe biden. don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms an
joe biden made remarks ab the middle class being buried. here it is. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. of course, the middle class has been buried. they are being buried by regulations, by taxes, by borrowing, they are being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> the romney campaign is taking remarks out of context. alex, will it work or is it just desperation? >> i...
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what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know me well. i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe in what i believe and i do what i do and i really believe in the policies we are providing that we are pursuing. and at the end of the day i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> chris: i know you were hoping that joe biden makes one of his occasional gaffes. >> he doesn't do that in debaits. the gaffes he is kind of ledgentary for this. that is not in these situations. he is a disciplined person when speaks in these kind of situations and doesn't produce gaffes in these moments. those are when is off
what are the similarities between ted olson and joe biden? >> they are are about the same age and ted olson is one really good debater. i hope joe biden shows more than ted olson because he is one of the best litigators in america. he has studied joe biden's tapes and records and style and ted as you know is one of the best litigators in america and pretty good at adapting to that. >> chris: have you got lines already prepared? attack lines? >> i'm not the a line guy. you know...
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>> actually, i think if you ask the voters, i think joe biden proved what's great about joe biden. he gets it. he's in touch. you know what? 80% of the voters agree. this economy has been bad. people have been buried. that's why they want to elect a president and a vice president who get it. who are in touch and will have policies that help the middle class, not millionaires. so i agree with the vice president. i think 88% of the voters would agree, too. >> jennifer: i just love joe biden. he's just -- he's just the greatest. he really is. thank you so much as ever for coming inside "the war room." >> thank you. >> jennifer: you political junkgies, a big tuesday night with big names in "the war room." there are leaders in the feminist movement and then there's gloria steinem. her take on the war on women and the election is next. and in the spirit of phrases conservation, there are political historians and then there's douglas brinkley. he'll take us on an historical tour of debates past. and later, a compelling documentary about a city near and dear to my heart detroit michigan. w
>> actually, i think if you ask the voters, i think joe biden proved what's great about joe biden. he gets it. he's in touch. you know what? 80% of the voters agree. this economy has been bad. people have been buried. that's why they want to elect a president and a vice president who get it. who are in touch and will have policies that help the middle class, not millionaires. so i agree with the vice president. i think 88% of the voters would agree, too. >> jennifer: i just love joe...
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vice president joe biden doesn't debate until next week, but
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justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been "buried." we agree. >> let's bring in the news nation political panel, associate editor and columnist for the "washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene robinson, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i would like to start off with you, is it fair to compare the two tape you the president's tape the conservatives were talking about since last night and the video of congressman ryan saying you 30% of people want to live their lives on welfare is it fair to compare these tapes, especially given the president's tape, then-senator obama, was covered by the media then? >> it a beautiful day in denver today, tamron. first of all. >> nice weather report, eugene. >> obama says nothing new on the tape and it was covered years aleen sirgany but fair it is all fair in politics. if it's on tape, you can put it out. the way it was put out by t
justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been "buried." we agree. >> let's bring in the news nation political panel, associate editor and columnist for the "washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene robinson, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i...
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>> it's a rather interesting thing that vice president biden said. they tried to clean it up in the hours since he made the comment but he is right. the middle class has in fact been buried in the past four years. we have seen a drop in real income. real household income over the past four years that is even worse than it was in the immediate recession following the financial collapse of 2008. that is an argument i would expect governor romney to pick up. the real question going in the debates is whether we're going to see governor romney we saw sometimes in the prime, republican primary debates tough and aggressive and took the fight to the opponents. or the softer campaign they're is softer and trying not to drive the contrast so much. >> bret: juan? >> well, i think that obviously vice president biden was talking about the consequences of the deep recession country went in as the administration, administration's perspective, from his perspective as they were trying to get the economy straightened out, that the middle class has had a rough time. wh
>> it's a rather interesting thing that vice president biden said. they tried to clean it up in the hours since he made the comment but he is right. the middle class has in fact been buried in the past four years. we have seen a drop in real income. real household income over the past four years that is even worse than it was in the immediate recession following the financial collapse of 2008. that is an argument i would expect governor romney to pick up. the real question going in the...
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so, you are not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage, ran for president twice, a sitting vice president. what i hope to achieve is to give people an alternative. a very different governing philosophy, different policies, and, joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good, at trying to confuse the issues. so, that the person who leaves the debate is not confused about who strands fands for what. >> chris: you have ted olson, supreme court appellate lawyer, respected in the country, and won bush versus gore as your standin. >> ted olson is one good debater and i hope joe biden shows up more than ted olson, he's one of the best litigators in america but what ted has done is studied joe biden's tapes and record and joe biden's, john style and said, as you know, one of the best litigators in america and is good at adapting to that. chris: have you got lines already prepared, attack lines. >> i'm not a "line" guy, i'm more of a gut guy. i'm more of a -- you know me well, i don't try to be anybody ot
so, you are not going to rattle joe biden. joe biden has been on the national stage, ran for president twice, a sitting vice president. what i hope to achieve is to give people an alternative. a very different governing philosophy, different policies, and, joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good, at trying to confuse the issues. so, that the person who leaves the debate is not confused about who strands fands for what. >> chris: you have ted olson, supreme court appellate lawyer,...
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i want to get your reaction to something gentleman biden -- joe biden said. >>guest: is deadly earnest. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify, raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last fur years, how in lord's name can though justify? >>neil: he just said the middle class has been buried. >> i am missing this. i don't have a term but that was joe biden talking about the middle class being buried with tax increases. >>neil: buried the last four years of the administration and now they are looking at tax increases. >>guest: well, what can i say for joe? after all, just go to obamacare. this campaign has lost all sense, both parties, both campaigns have nothing but utter contempt for the american people. you have serious segments on today, we not having that discussion about what is coming in the debt in this sequestering and what we have to do. that is not happening. we have campaigns for people to say, just basically crazy things on all sides. i think at some point the country is disgusting. i am, i don't know
i want to get your reaction to something gentleman biden -- joe biden said. >>guest: is deadly earnest. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify, raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last fur years, how in lord's name can though justify? >>neil: he just said the middle class has been buried. >> i am missing this. i don't have a term but that was joe biden talking about the middle class being buried with tax increases....